Software Company “Infinite Campus” Lies

Recently, there have been two comments on my blog about Infinite Campus, both of which praise the quality of Infinite Campus.  They were both made within an hour and a half.  Hmmm… I thought I’d better look into this one a little bit more.

They were a lot worse than I initially thought.

The emails were both fake, unless you believe “info4nancy@comcast.net” and “jeff@jeff.com” to be legit email addresses.  The two comments said nothing but good things about this “amazing” company.  They were both apparently from people with authority in large school districts; at least, they implied being from different school districts.  The comments were written in different styles of writing, so one may think they were from different people.

I agree that one should not jump to conclusions.  I won’t.

I thought I would check the IP addresses.  What a surprise.  They were the same.  Why not look that one IP address up on an IP locator out of curiosity?  Hmm… The IP was “207.225.137.8”, so the location is “Minneapolis, MN”.  That’s interesting.  That is where their headquarters is located.  Oh!  This is even more interesting!  The ISP field says “Infinite Campus”.  Do I need a screenshot to prove this?  This commenter believes I need to “check my facts” before writing, so this screenshot will give the reader an opportunity to do so for his/herself.

Response

One of two conclusions can be drawn by this.

  1. Just recently, another school district opened in Minneapolis.  Both this school district, and the existing school district in Minneapolis have broken into a single computer at the Infinite Campus HQ and tunneled through it to steal their bandwidth.  The company Infinite Campus has no idea this is going on, because nothing has been done to stop it.
  2. Infinite Campus, as a company, LIED to the general public to try to get more business.

I’ll assume the latter.

It is scary to me, though, to know that proprietary software companies as well known and widely used as Infinite Campus must LIE to retain their status.  We trust these companies with so much, especially those who make a Student Information System.  Every known piece of personal information about students and their families is put into this system, including a picture.  How can we, in all honesty, know that they haven’t lied to us again?  It is very possible that there is an intentional security hole in there so creepy employees can stalk random students.  This would put more control into their hands than even MySpace or Facebook has.  There is no way to find out, but I can tell you one thing: I don’t want my information in there!  I don’t want my school to unintentionally exploit a creative way to bypass information privacy laws!

This all just goes to show that money comes first for greedy proprietary software companies like Infinite Campus.  Money comes before education.  Money comes before freedom.  Money comes before morals.  Shouldn’t education software companies in particular actually come so far as to think about the morals that educators are trying to instill in their students?

Hey, employees at Infinite Campus!  Give some ethical software a try.  You can take your first steps with one of my previous blog posts.  Even if you never went to college, just like your CEO, you might just learn something!

Published in: on February 23, 2009 at 11:50 pm  Comments (16)  
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16 Comments

  1. Thank you for your postings about IC. I have been quite disturbed about this company since the day they signed an open-ended contract with the State of Maine. Keep up the good work.

    MC

  2. Great research! You are a natural at computer fraud analysis.

  3. Hi!

    I agree that education centers, public institutions and governments should take free (libre) software. The beginning can be difficult but in the long term the profits
    are invaluable. Very few people has this vision because much of them haven’t even heard of it.

    In addition, we all are too worried about urgent tasks and leave important ones for tomorrow, or next year, or never…

    I bet there is a Free software users group in your area. Don’t feel as like you are alone. You are not.

    Keep up the good writing!
    Pablo

  4. Forgive my broken English. I’m learning. *People have. Bye!

  5. Ha, it’s rare to see a young student who values the importance of free software. The future is bright.

    It reminds me of the Scorpion:

    “Take me to the magic of the moment
    On a glory night
    Where the children of tomorrow dream away
    In the wind of change”

    —————–
    It’s not the software that’s free; it’s you

  6. HA! Where are all the pro-IC rants now?

    Here’s another juicy one for you:
    http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2009/jan/21/breaking-news-1/

  7. I think the “pro-IC rants” have decided it is a waste of time to argue with such misinformed and ignorant ramblings.

  8. I have viewed a copy of IC’s Vendor Worksheet and I cannot understand how a school official could sign a contract to rent IC’s software. The initial installation cost is high….the highest I have seen was $240,000, then $141,000 per year for 5 years.

    Here in Georgia, based on the $6.00 per student, Atlanta Public Schools will pay $288,000. Twiggs County the lowest at $6,000.
    Neither figure includes the student maintenance cost.
    There are at least 4 SIS versions used in Georgia, for the 2009 -2010 school year, total expenditure will be 20 million dollars.
    Now down in Florida, the Pinellas County Schools option for OpenSIS (open software) to be used in its 189 schools. Minimum cost for Open SIS is $2,000. Pinellas option for customization to meet their overall SIS needs with a support contract. Seems schools do not like to share info about what software they use.

    My 2 cents.

    IVERYLM

    • Thats nothing! San Jose Unified School District payed 600,000 for install PLUS 200,000 a year for support and maintenance! I’m the founder and C.E.O. of Curveu (www.curveu.com) and we are trying to better all of these systems by providing a free front-end to Infinite Campus, PowerSchool and Blackboard! Check us out!

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  11. Wow.. “It is very possible that there is an intentional security hole in there so creepy employees can stalk random students. This would put more control into their hands than even MySpace or Facebook has. There is no way to find out, but I can tell you one thing: I don’t want my information in there! I don’t want my school to unintentionally exploit a creative way to bypass information privacy laws!”

    Something tells me you need some help.. guess what I would worry more about holes in my banking software and in IRS databases..

    But I suppose you don’t file tax returns and keep your money in your mattress so I guess you are pretty secure. Thumbs Up..

  12. i am a pre-final year BE(ECE) student.If you will contain campus on outside of the colleges please inform to me

  13. Presently suffering through an IC implementation disaster in northern Nevada that we have all been “advised” not to discuss in public, all we hear is how hundreds of other school districts have already implemented the program to great success. I guess no administration wants to admit what a mistake they have made with this software, which appears to be nothing less than the CEO of IC getting his revenge on the education bureaucracy. Now I guess we’ll be in line to buy the “upgrades.”

  14. Could not have argued it significantly better myself – and I’m a law student!

  15. As for the SIS part, IC is fine for most district employees, but the previous system was DOS based so anything would have been an improvement. The Gradebook portion, however, is so bad that I would prefer just doing the darn thing by hand. It is the only program that I have ever used that I like a little less every time I use it, and the “improvements” always break something that actually worked fine.


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